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The Real criminals are the makers of the divide and rule policy and the impoverishment and torturing of citizens

The Land Center for Human Rights held a symposium on Tuesday 18th Jan 2011 entitled "The Church of saints and prosecute criminals," with the attendance of 70 participants and the participation of NGOs, lawyers and journalists from the governorates of Cairo and Sixth of October City, Giza, Helwan, Dakahlia, Qaliubiya, Menoufiya, Behira, Fayoum, Beni Suef, Qena, Sohag, Minya and Sohag. The symposium included four sessions and is a summary of what happened:
The workshop started with a welcoming speech by Karam Saber - Executive Manager of The Land Center – addressing the attendants and explained that the Centre felt that it is his duty to participate in the subject which is attracting all the Egyptians at the moment with all categories, including farmers and threatening the security and unity, especially after the controversy raised by the media about the incident Saints Church in Alexandria and portraying the incident like a feud between Muslims and Christians, therefore, the Centre decided to organize a symposium in an attempt to reverse the discussions of their assets and liabilities to address the real responsible for the industry and the secretion of these policies and other similar events.
Then the first session started entitled "The current situation and reproduce violence and tyranny and poverty," The session was headed by Professor Mahmoud Mortada - Head of the alternative Development Centre and confirmed that he is already there for our disadvantaged socially and financially, and culturally, this denial makes it easy to be mobilized and channeled, and use these categories to religion as a bulwark in the light of what you are suffering from deprivation. He also pointed to the existence of congestion religious in Egypt, but he wondered how such a situation arises. And when did the causes of the current situation appear? He stressed that the economic and political conditions and other factors are standing behind the current situation and pointed out that the first events of this kind were the events of El Zawya El hamra in 1976, and confirmed that there is a confusion between what is sectarian and what is not sectarian and that we do not know what is the difference between them and the picture is not clear.
Then the Manager of The Land Center started pointing that the current events in Tunisia, make all of us driven by the hope that this can occur in Egypt and said that the government’s simplest forms are used all the time, the types of tricks to deprive citizens their livings and their livelihoods, or at least deprive large parts of which we see a lot of owners Business and capital are taking over the rights of citizens and their wealth by officials across the authorities and the laws and other means by which they brought to bear to serve their own purposes.
Then he pointed that when Egypt was an empire at the height of its glory, it was based on respect for the value of work and tolerance was not interested in invading other country in spite of the ability to do so, then he expressed that the causes of the accident of the Saints Church, which summed up the abuses and waste to the rights of citizens civil and economic, social and cultural rights.
A discussion was opened with the audience, who all confirmed the need to address those reasons for the renaissance of our beloved dear Egypt.
Then, the second session began entitled "The Copts and the file sectarian and citizenship" and was headed by Professor Manal El Tibi - Head of the Egyptian Center for Housing Rights, who began her speech expressing deep regret for what happened in the New Year's Eve and confirmed that all Egyptians, Muslims and Christians are alike and she assured that the thing that eased the impact of grief was only the good news coming from green Tunisia.
Then she began her speech with a number of questions:
• Is there a sectarian in Egypt or not? If the answer is yes, what do we mean by the sectarian problem?
• Is it only in the sectarian or sectarian violence or is it a form of sectarian discrimination and the prevailing community?
• Who is responsible for sectarianism and discrimination, is it the government only? Or are there other parties such as the Church and Al-Azhar or other sectarian parties?
• The Workshop today is about the rights of citizenship. Does the Egyptian Constitution distinguish between, the citizens? And at what level?
• Does sectarian discrimination exist in Muslims against Christians, or vice versa, but the numerical increase of the Muslims allows them to exercise violence against the minority party?
She noted that the State had started as usual to deny and accused foreign parties of responsibility for it.
Then Professor Hossam Bahgat - Director of the Egyptian Initiative for Personal Rights, who began by referring to the report presented by the report which noted that the report is relatively non-processions of recent events, but the results are still valid.
He spoke in 3 points:
• The sectarian problem: its manifestations and how we see we have in the Egyptian Initiative for Personal Rights?
• The problem that occurred in the beginning of the month and its effects.
• Presenting a report titled "Where to begin," We will not pretend, but we put our hands on some of the keys to the solution and the index, which determines our success to be the beginning of a way to solve the problem and noted that the report issued by the Freedom of Religion and Belief.
He pointed out that the report talks about the patterns of sectarian violence and sectarian tension in Egypt, numerical and graphic illustrations, which confirm the existence of sectarian violence on the level of 17 governorates of the Republic and after the completion of the report was an accident Marsa Matruh – a virgin land and relatively recent - bringing the number to 18 provinces.
He spoke about the security response in the event of any sectarian violence, where violence is used against the parties and keep some individuals from each hostage by the security authorities "until we agree to waive and reconciliation is not to compensate the victims, increasing congestion.
The second speaker in the session was Professor Farid Zahran - Manager of the El Mahrousa Center who began his speech by stressing that the incident in the Church of the saints have been afflicted very depressed and that the Day of Resurrection, the Egyptian and the general climate is going in the direction of the Day of Resurrection Church followed by a train accident in Minya also praised the state of self-restraint experienced by all Christians - throughout the earlier periods - and Muslims - to current events - paid by the state policies.
He also confirmed that for the government, it is better to disturb the street with sectarian than to disturbed it socially. So it is a very simple response to all those who ask him when what happened in Tunisia occur in Egypt? My response was that we have no other files have to push prices higher and opens the file for people to come out sectarian file and forget the prices.
It was stated that Egypt has 2.5 million foreign non-Muslims when it had a population of Egypt's 22 million were present in Egyptian cities and villages people living with the Egyptians and working in all professions and simple They were grocers and shopkeepers commodity why was this peaceful coexistence, because Egypt was building a state of the modern liberal, but beginning with 52 new projects, a project of the Islamic National has tried this model in a certain way to catch up with the updates, but suffered a lot of failures.
After that, the session chairman, Professor Manal El Tibi, said that we must look to the sectarian problem the concept of a broader and more comprehensive and we are all Egyptians under citizenship.
A large discussion was held among the participants at the end of the meeting on peace and coexistence, which is characterized by the Egyptians but the government’s failure policies are what led to the emergence of these social ills.
The session began with the third under the title "The Egyptians and religions", headed by Dr. Magdy Abdel Hamid - Chairman of the Egyptian association for community participation. He spoke about issues of religion to the Egyptians, not talking and the idea of monotheism in general are of great importance to the Egyptians and have a very big impact on their relationship to life, Egypt was the cradle of three religions, the Egyptian. The difference between religion or religiosity, as we all know and as defined by the Egyptian people for hundreds of years what is known as a politicized religion and pointed out that it does not mean that political Islam but also Christianity, a political exploitation of religion to achieve political goals.
Then spoke, Mr.Abdul Aziz Jamaludin - a researcher and historian, began by saying: It was the ancient Egyptian beliefs represented in the conscience, whether consciously or unconsciously. The Egyptian has a conscience and then he has a religion Christian or Muslim, Sunni or Sheaa ... etc.
It is assumed that the Egyptians, who have a conscience with a history of thousands of years ago, are one people, not divided by religion.
Then he talked about the religious side of the ancient Egyptians and explained that religious beliefs were encouraging people to build a home, and that the Egyptian cultural case before they are varieties and we find throughout history people were not Egyptians but they are routinely among the Egyptians, and love to be Egyptians, such as the Ptolemaic Europeans in history the old and the newest of them Arabs Fatimids. He stressed that all religions that have entered Egypt from Judaism and even Islam did not witness any religious wars in ancient Egypt only religion with traffickers who were not able to imitate the ancient Egyptians, and to allow pluralism and tolerance. And Dr. Magdy Abdel Hamid, who confirmed that Egypt had long been in the history of peoples and cultural center of radiation and all of exploiting it to depress them culturally and intellectually.
He added that what could be linked to the Egyptians is already common interests and to maximize the value of the work, pluralism days were not a source of conflict not only with regard to the monotheistic religions, but not divine, we also do not represent the world we are part of the small and the world by dozens of religions. He also confirmed that we have no factors calling for the band and that when the nation suffers from the conditions of cultural, economic and social low, the cause for the emergence of religious division and discord.
Interventions stressed the need to educate the audience on the citizens a culture of tolerance and pluralism to overcome the crisis in Egypt.
The fourth and final session, entitled "Prospects for the future and Egyptian Antiquities," which was headed Stadium / Open Mahrous God - Member of the Coordinating Committee of trade union freedoms.
The beginning was with the professor / Saber Nile from the Arab Center for Development and Human Rights, which began by stressing that there is congestion in Egypt and the secondary side because there are multiple type of fraud awareness and is not directed primarily to the demands of the people, whether economic or social.
He noted that the question here is: Why is the State resorted to the political use of religion, whether through social class or through the Authority?? !! We find that, as a rule worsened when it is unable to achieve true legitimacy here to resort to religious turban and often reiterated this position in the twentieth century in Pakistan, Sudan and others. Then he talked about the problem of poverty and how that more than half of the Egyptian people below the poverty line also stressed that a distinction is codified and the last is not regulated against Christians and give examples of a codified, such as appointments, education, and non-regulated. He wondered, are only Christians discriminated? But we find that the State persecutes many of the poor.
Then Dr. / Salah El Zeny - Professor at the Institute of Petroleum Research confirming the presence of congestion or sectarian discrimination rather than persecution, but we hope we get to the point of persecution.
He stressed that the modernization of the Egyptian village is the solution to control the current situation and a change of mind sectarian, sectarian thinking is the son of backward agriculture and not from industry and developed agriculture.
He also stressed that the biggest obstacle to modernize the Egyptian village and means of modern agriculture is the fragmentation of agricultural property, which prevent the application of modern farming systems and stressed that the solution lies in the adoption of this idea and then we can save young people from engaging in violent currents. The third speaker is Mr. Mohamed Hijazi - Director of Al zohoor association of rural friendship, who presented a paper as a participation, talked about the civil state and stressed that the system is issued to us the question of Christian and Muslim to achieve the system of divide and rule and can be controlled in the fortunes of all.
And suggested the idea and described a dream which wishes to verify that there is a spokesperson for civil and legal rights of the Egyptians to be elected by the people. At the end, Karam Saber - Executive Manager of The Land Center stressed on the need to recognize the existence of crisis and the situation could explode if that happens we will not be able to find any solutions while the sitters on power chairs are away from the suffering of the people and do not seek in any way to attempt to provide real solutions to the problem and stressed on the need to take the subject of a civil legal state into account is the exit for much of what ails Egypt.
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